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CSPAN
Sep 30, 2012 7:00am EDT
than under george bush, over 4 1/2 trillion dollars under obama, $700 billion under george bush, the expanding war, you know, people thought obama was going to be the peace president but in fact on day three in office he intensified the bombing in pakistan. and then spread the drone wars into yemen and somalia, surged the troops into afghanistan and withdrew from iraq only because it was george bush's date of withdrawal. it of the date george bush had negotiated to end the immunity for u.s. soldiers and barack obama had done his darn december to try to -- darndest to extend that date so the troops may be there now if he had had his way so yes, we haven't gotten peace. voting for either of the two major parties is basically a very good way to ensure that we will continue to send jobs overseas, undermine our wages at home, watch the cross of health care and housing and education continue to skyrocket out of reach and watch the climate essentially go up in flames, because under this president, as much as under george bush, we have seen the polices of drill baby drill and in fact th
MSNBC
Sep 29, 2012 12:00pm PDT
director to president george w. bush. also a romney supporter. matt, good afternoon to you, sir. >> great to be with you. >> is this the last best chance for governor romney? true or false? what do you think? >> i guess kind of true. it's a great opportunity. i think it's a big mistake for candidates, especially when they're running for president, to put all the marbles in a debate. because really what you want to do in a debate, is first of all, you don't want to be swinging so much for the fences that you make a lot of errors. i worked for president george w. bush, as you said, and in his first debate in 2004, a lot of people felt like he gave a subpar performance. and there's no question that we breathe some life into our opponents, and if president obama, who some have characterized as almost a messianic kind of figure, comes across as someone who does not have a real plan for second term, he could be looking at poll numbers that get even more tight. >> but if governor romney doesn't unveil some sort of grand plan for his first term, that won't move the needle at all either, will it?
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 9:00am EDT
that are saying farewell. see what he says about george w. bush and john mccain. this is "the daily rundown." i am chuck todd. let's get to the first reads of the morning. in the last two weeks, we polled in nine battleground states deciding the election. ohio, florida, virginia, colorado, iowa, wisconsin, north carolina, nevada, new hampshire. bad news for mitt romney, he doesn't lead in a single one. at best within the poll's margin of error. at worst, trails by eight points. this morning, how the nine states stack up. we said it again and again. the president's job approval rating may be the best indicator of where the bout may be. where it is more than 50, the president favored to win. iowa, florida, new hampshire, ohio, virginia, his approval rating below that, 47 or 48 in four. colorado, nevada, north carolina, wisconsin. here is a second way to breakdown the numbers. romney struggled with favorability number all year. that number underwater, more voters have unfavorable than favorable view in six states. romney is in positive territory in just three. florida, north carolina, virginia. final
CSPAN
Sep 29, 2012 2:15pm EDT
that was been wrongly at the seat of george bush in the republican party when it goes back to democratic house important -- but nevertheless i wrote in that book that romney would make a great presidential nominee. i didn't know who the nominee would be. it's not a book about romney. i was proven remarkably impressionable by the 2007 book. the dean of the columbia school of journalism. the new yorkers national political reporter and always the go to guy for national political stories. the profile the in 2005 for the new yorker. it was a very nice piece. he told his liberal democratic leaders, the most influential conservative you ever heard of. okay. [laughter] that's okay, i guess. i don't really speak to the manhattan crowd, the your crowd. how many of you describe to the new yorker? i rest my case. he had read that and remembered that i've written this book about romney. what do you think now? have read the book. no, i haven't. go back and read in and coming back. he did. he called me back in about a week. what do you think of the book? we talked about it. in fact, i made predictions about
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 5:00pm PDT
actually make it faster. this is where the obama campaign sees their opportunity. george w. bush, obviously, his prime economic policy was a set of very large tax cuts. they did not have a very positive effect on the economy, even before the recession. it was a very, very weak expansion. and so governor romney has come in and he's proposed very, very large tax cuts again. and he hasn't wanted, in order to get away from the bush part, he hasn't wanted to explain them too much. in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i would imagine the obama administration, or obama's going to go through tonight, you really only need to know two numbers about romney's tax plan, one is $480 billion. that's the cost of it in 2015, just to pick one year. and the other is $251 billion. that's the amount that will go to very wealthy families. now, mitt romney's promise, his tax plan won't cost a dime on the deficit. so he somehow needs to get $480 billion out of the tax code by closing breaks and loopholes, seems like the mortgage interest deduction, and also
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 6:00am PDT
if president obama had done something like that. >> george w. bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think probably benjamin netanyahu's standing with important leaders is pretty well fixed, i don't think it moves it one way or another. he is a hard liner. he doesn't like this administration plainly. they have some real differences. he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in
FOX News
Sep 28, 2012 7:00pm PDT
clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton cried. >> you know, i have so many opportunities from this country. >> she began to tear up. >> don
MSNBC
Sep 26, 2012 9:00am PDT
to john kerry losing narrowly to george w. bush in that state, the president has a couple huge advantages we're seeing in the ten-point game, one is the auto bailout. there is no state besides michigan be impacted more positively by the auto bailout than ohio. 82 out of 88 counties have an auto parts supplier in them that's felt a direct effect of the bailout. part of why the economy is doing better there. it's enough to move the needle. also the case that anti-union backlash in the industrial midwest and wisconsin has motivated organized labor in ohio in a way, the case always for democrats ohio is the place where organized labor has the most impact. this year motivating them more so. all that adds up to it's been an uphill climb for mitt romney, ten points is probably not what that margin will be on election day, but it's -- it is a state that's very hard to figure out a map for mitt romney to win. possible but not -- very hard. almost kind of fantastical, ha his naer to. >> so many other things about mitt romney -- >> it's just very, very hard. >> kurt andersen a son of the midwest is.
MSNBC
Sep 27, 2012 1:00pm PDT
now to "clear the air." and up until now former president george w. bush has managed to stay out of the spotlight much to the relief of mitt romney. even when his wife, laura, agreed to host a lavish fund-raiser for mr. romney at their home in dallas, mr. bush made sure he was nowhere to be seen. but just to be clear, bush 43 has expressed some support for mr. romney, sort of. >> interested in politics, i'm a supporter of mitt romney, hope he does well, but, you know, he can do well without me. >> president bush clearly understands that most republicans don't want to recall his period in the white house. the massive tax cuts that threw away a budget surplus, two wars that were neither budgeted for nor easily executed, and a mortgage mess that was the direct result of minimal egg lation and maximum exploitation. that's why we were a little surprised to learn that george b. bush has accepted an invitation to be the keynote speaker at a forthcoming investors conference will will take place on the cayman islands. yes, even as mr. bush avoids romney the man, he's getting closer to som
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 7:00am PDT
to spend that money early? >> they were very smart. they did exactly to mitt romney what george bush did to john kerry a few years ago. but romney's people should have been smart enough to know this was happening. there was no presumption of that. they didn't get out aahead of the story. they didn't define their candidate well. there's two parts to this election, chris. one, is romney said a lot of people are unhappy with obama and his leadership and the economy. we accept that. he never made the connection that i'm the answer and solution. that's where the disconnect happened. >> mitt romney has been doing a lot to -- we saw it starting at the conventions. make himself more acceptable and help people understand him better. he's doing these direct into the camera ads. let me play one of those for you. >> more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took office. my plan will create 12 million new jobs over the next four years. helping lift families out of poverty and strengthening the middle class. >> the president is doing the same thing, doing some of these direct to c
CNN
Oct 3, 2012 1:00pm PDT
back and looked at 2004 for example when you had john kerry and george bush. in sort of late september bush was ahead of kerry by about seven points. after the first debate it was a two-point margin because john kerry did very well. then george w. bush came back and did better at the next debate. but he did narrow the gap after that first debate. and in a race that's as closes a this, wolf, that could make all the difference. >> very close in florida and virginia, for example and a debate tonight could impact the undecided voters. thanks, gloria. >> uh-huh. >>> you want to talk about the trial of the century, it could have happened if the raid in pakistan had unfolded differently. and a woman who came close to death in portland, maine's harbor can thank her lucky stars for some alert bystanders ready to help her. everyone has goals. take the steps to reach yours, with us with real advice, for real goals. the us bank wealth management advisor can help you. every step of the way. from big steps, to little steps. since 1863 we've helped guide our clients, so they can take the steps to hel
MSNBC
Oct 3, 2012 3:00am PDT
's got to do what george w. bush did in 2000 at one point in the evening and run the board. he's got to win all of these swing states. >> he does. the good news, it's headed the right direction. >> he can do it. >> absolutely. in late september, early october 2000, we were down three to five points. everybody said the campaign was completely screwed up. everybody should be fired. george bush went on to win all three debates, run the tables, as you've said, and turn it around and was up three. so it's absolutely possible. and i think this is big stakes. i mean, this is really an opportunity where people -- >> tonight is -- tonight is a huge debate. it really is. >> it's huge for all the obvious reasons. >> for the obvious reasons. >> but there's a lot of people that have heard a lot about romney and really haven't seen him. >> right. >> tonight they're going to get to see him all alone, mano a mano, and it's a real opportunity for them to get a sense of who he is, what he believes because they've just heard a lot. they haven't seen it. they're going to see it tonight. this is a real o
MSNBC
Sep 26, 2012 3:00am PDT
the liberal media for the campaign's troubles. the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not only to win the presidency but to get re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforced errors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. if whining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newt gingrich would be the nominee." >> well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the problem we're talking about here. because -- >> no. >> -- no, instead of stepping forward and separating himself from this candidate, he somehow, because of his party -- >> todd akin is going to lose. that's a distraction. >> it is. >> i'm talking about the presidential race. we're one week out from the first presidential debate, and we have brand-new polling out this morning from three separate swing states that show this race is slipping away. >> and they're the big three. >> and they're the big three, mika. >> yes, they are. are you ready? >> i'm ready for you t
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 3:00am PDT
george h.w. bush never once whined about process. you know why? because james baker told the press what they were going to be following. and he told the candidate what he was going to be doing. and every week the candidate did it. the message was unbelievable. but again, going on with charles krauthammer, for six months mitt has been matching obama small ball for small ball. a hit-and-run critique here. this is important. a hit-and-run critique here, a slogan of the week there. that's what we've been saying. sam stein, there is no over arching message, no reagan message, no thatcher message, no george h.w. bush message in 1988. it's small ball. you have a libyan embassy blow up. you push him out the next morning and do something that even the romney campaign now understands was an absolute disaster. the president makes a faux pa about a bump in the road which was a stupid thing to say but they obsess over that. they say this is the message. this is how we're getting people back to work and change the economy clearly they're chasing after news headlines trying to win the day. >> that is
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 11:00am PDT
with a trend line similar it to george w. bush. the american people like him, but they're open to somebody better. mitt romney is now the next massachusetts guy who maybe was a flip-flopper in the past like john kerry. can he close the sale with the american people? this is a referendum on mitt romney all aalong. we already had a referendum on obama. it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a better job for the next four years. romney needs to present something other than, jie, hasn't obama sucked? you cannot win like that. howard dean would be the democratic nominee and president of the united states if that was the case. you have to give people a reason to vote for you. >> steve, you make pay compelling argument there. the debates, perhaps, michael, the next opportunity and the last opportunity for mitt romney to make this case. both sides have elised memos. this is beth myers of the romney campaign. this is what she says in part. it's clear that president obama will use his ample rhett for cal gifts in debating
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 6:00am PDT
? he hasn't differentiated from george bush's. and his plans lack specifics. in a one-on-one debate, candidates have a lot of control over how aggressive they are. both romney and the president are inexperienced in a one-on-one debate format. few details on the format. the president and romney will be at podiums, standing, not sitting, and there will be no basic time limits on their answers. it's not 90 seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer. that's going to be up to him. but there's supposed to be a lot of leeway here over how long the conversations go. the debate is on domestic policy. 90 minutes is supposed to be devoted to the economy specifically with governing and health care. but we'll see if the general nature of those areas allows libya to come up, which we know the romney folks want to do. debates are as much about style as substance and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 presidential debate between th
CSPAN
Sep 25, 2012 11:00pm EDT
. the margin was quite high. it's important to remember that george w. bush and call rove had a brilliant strategy of our reach to hispanic voters, and it was successful. george w. bush in 2004 won at least 40 percent of the vote. the exit polling had a net 44. but it was a remarkable accomplishment. and now romney is pulling at best in the mid-20s. and his own campaign said they need to reach 38 percent nationally in order to be competitive in the states where the latino vote will be critical. so what the republican party has done is to merge to the right instead of george of the bush, carl rove, john mccain. let's reach out to hispanics and make immigration reform something beefier. a party where mitt romney now embodies the party. he promised to veto. he is on a radical policy prescription. the idea of making life so miserable year that immigrants are literally purge from the country. so this looks to the right has hit badly with hispanics. that means as you point out in your paper the southwest is out of reach with of, in large part because of this. they pulled out of the mexico. they
CSPAN
Sep 29, 2012 2:00pm EDT
debate between george bush, bill clinton, and prospero -- ross perot. >> republican vice president joe candidate paul ryan is making campaign stops in new hampshire and ohio. here is his campaign rally from this morning in new hampshire. he speaks for about half an hour. ♪ >> thank you so much for coming out, everybody. thank you so much. thank you for hosting us. thank you for sending mitt romney to the white house and barack obama back to chicago. [applause] it is so great to be back here. this is a beautiful place and a beautiful state. i brought my beautiful wife with me as well. [applause] she is here with my sister and brother-in-law. they live right over the border in boston. i do not know if that is a good or bad thing to everybody here. my sister lives in boston. she works for dunkin brands. this man knows how to balance a budget, cut spending, it knows fiscal responsibility. he is one of the leaders helping us to do that. that is charlie bass as well. let's give them a round of applause. [applause] friends, we have a big trees to make. -- we have a big choice to make. this
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 3:00pm PDT
by five points. and get this, he has a lower favorable rating than george w. bush. don't adjust your tv set. mr. romney is less liked than bush. huh? maybe that's something to do with the fact that he can't seem to answer basic questions. >> how was that? >> i have nothing. >> guys, here we go. >> guys -- it's just -- all we've got here is beef jerky? who here wants a piece of beef jerky? that's all i've got. this was given to us by jack link. >> what do you have planned for the weekend? >> anyone else? >> governor romney, they were asking about the debates, about the israeli prime minister, not about beef jerky. now, romney did answer questions from reporters later. but this is what he's done issue after issue, dodge questions and hide behind the mask. but i've got news for mr. romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in th
FOX News
Sep 25, 2012 6:00pm PDT
was in a white house with george herbert walker bush. he took that brief every day. george w. bush took it every day. i believe that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> george herbert walker bush did not hold any bilateral meetings of the united nations in 1992. >> bill: wait a minute. hang on a second. joe, joe, this is what you're missing. the president of the united states is lying to the families of four dead americans. >> he is not lying. he's not lying. >> bill: if this was a spontaneous attack, they happened to have in their back pocket rocket-propelled grenade, if it wasn't a planned, orchestrated attack? they happened to have a mortar round in their back pocket that they were firing at the embassy? >> sean, sean -- >> bill: wait a minute. why were the -- >> sean, wait for me for a second. when libya fell, when the government collapsed, there were thousands and thousands of rpgs
CBS
Sep 30, 2012 8:30am PDT
reagan, reagan stood up to it. and it was true for george h.w. bush. he had a moment to knock out bill clinton and he didn't. >> schieffer: this debate will be about domestic affairs. i want to ask you something about the foreign policy front. the administration has basic plea changed its account of what happened in libya, where our u.s. ambassador was killed. they said, susan rice said on this broadcast last sunday, after the president of libya said this was the work of terrorists, she said, no, this was because of a spontaneous demonstration that had to do with that film. now they have come around to saying, well, yes, it was a terrorist attack. is mitt romney making enough of this? i haven't heard too much from him on that. >> bob, what struck me-- and i have nope the director of national intelligence for years. he's a bright man. he's a competent man. this administration in effect is now saying, "oh, don't blame the united nations ambassador. don't blame the white house spokesman. don't blame the president, because our intelligence system failed so decisively." i don't know which w
FOX News
Oct 1, 2012 8:00am PDT
a more effective version. as we carry on george w. bush's policies. on israel i think some of the romney charges are accurate. the fact is that the president has gratuitously alienated the prime minister of israel on an issue frankly was not relevant, which was settlements. and i don't think, unlike bill clinton, and george w. bush, that this president has the kind of emotional sensitivity that think is required to create some measure of partnership with the israelis even though netanyahu is a difficult guy. on syria, look, let's be clear. we're coming off the two longest wars in american history. the last thing we need is another military adventure that isn't thought through very clearly. on iran, no matter who is president we have got big trouble coming. israelis rightly need to figure out a way to prevent iran from enriching uranium. the question is, whether or not you can do that short of war? and right now, neither barack obama nor mitt romney, nor benjamin netanyahu have answers to that. so --. >> brought us through some very important regions in the middle east and it is such a bi
FOX
Oct 1, 2012 2:00am PDT
w. bush, the ideological bias has not changed but they never covered george w. bush like he was going to lose. >> chris: you look like you will come out of your chair. >> look, the media has been covering this year's events, as if the only thing that matters is who wins in november. we've actually had a president of the united states for the last year, who has spent, i bet, go through his daily schedule, i bet spent 80% of his time running for re-election. i submit if that were a republican president, on a day like we had last week at the u.n., that appeared on a more entertainment focused show, but couldn't meet with our most important ally in the middle east, and that was a single member of a family who has been hit by one of these insider attacks in washington, i believe the media would be going nuts. i... >> chris: it is -- wait, wait, wait. juan. >> clearly, the president went to the ceremony, for ambassador stevens and met with the family. i think this is republican conspiracy. there is... if you give the media the 47% statement, if you give the media clint eastwood, i
CSPAN
Sep 27, 2012 1:00pm EDT
. 25.4% know more jobs were created in the first term of barack obama then the last term of george bush. that is a claim you see back- and-forth in advertising about who lost jobs and gained jobs. public confusion is to be expected. 31% knew that when mitt romney was governor of massachusetts, job growth in massachusetts improved. a claim in which democrats are trying to muddy the waters. in a long way to go in terms of improving public knowledge. we see deceptions that have been reinforced a lot in advertisements. 53.8% know that the statements are not accurate. barack obama has dropped all work requirements for individuals receiving welfare. 53.8% now that is not accurate. the rest either have the answer wrong or say they do not know. 41.6% know that this statement is not accurate -- mitt romney says that as president he will work to make abortion illegal in all circumstances. deceptions in ads being believed need more public knowledge. next slide. on matters of background knowledge, in which the item was in the news for an extended period, they have higher levels of background base k
MSNBC
Sep 27, 2012 6:00am PDT
than a quarter of the number of high dollar donors george w. bush had at the same point in his re-election. and now we're starting to see interesting analysis. >> continues to say do not get complacent. don't hold your cash. don't hold your checks back until june, july and august because we need to build our infrastructure now. >> what a difference four or five months make. the checks ramped up this summer. in august, obama super pac priorities usa action outraised romney's restore our future for the first time and now we see the impact. we see that restore spending plummeted from august to september. from 23 million to just 3 million. meanwhile, priorities usa has more than doubled its spending from just under 4 million in august to more than 9 million in september. now typically if you have plenty of money, you run television ads. if you don't, you run radio ads. priorities latest ad buy is on the radio point of a joint effort with the labor group. here's a piece of it. >> 150 million americans, seniors, veterans, the disabled, romney attacked them when he thought no one else wa
CSPAN
Sep 25, 2012 8:00pm EDT
. the republican party has done, george w. bush, karl rove, john mccain, let's reach out to hispanics and it has become a party that mitt romney -- well, he says that arizona as a model, the dream act that he has a radical policy prescription, health deportation, the idea of making life miserable here and immigrants are little encouraged . this lurch to the right, that strategy means, if you point out in your excellent paper, really, the southwest is out of reach for them in a large part because of this. they are pulled out of new mexico. they had a shock in colorado and nevada. if the turnout is high among latinos, it is not much of one. essentially, the romney strategy has been the economy. cuban-americans in florida, in hopes that we can have just enough of them, because maybe that will be the check, the problem is that even the hispanic electorate has changed. the fastest growing group is the non-latino immigrants who is a litmus test issue. we have part of the latino electorate at stake in a book about all this? would he make of all this? do think this is correct? >> let me just say that i
MSNBC
Oct 1, 2012 3:00am PDT
. >> mika, as we've been saying for some time both on and off the air, if the president was george w. bush and he had said that the middle east going up in flames was a, quote, bump in the road, george w. bush would have been absolutely skewered by the press. >> at the same time, is it fair to say that the romney campaign and mitt romney himself have seized upon things too quickly and almost looked a little almost like a dog pulling on someone's leg? >> they've been hand-fisted. >> let me ask you this. >> they made a mistake. in fact, even internally inside the romney campaign, they know now that the libyan press conference, the day after, they will all tell you, was an absolute mistake, and that showed up in the polls. >> here's my question, then. because congressman peter king is calling on susan rice to step down, to resign as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and yesterday, here's the response as they try and move forward and turn the majpage. congressman paul ryan and paul mccain. take a look at this approach. >> the response was slow. it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said t
CNN
Sep 29, 2012 7:00am PDT
moments, like when al gore, in his debates in 2000 with george bush, was sighing and rolling his eyes and walked out onstage with this crazy clown face, and that ended up sort of overwhelming the debate, another debate, where with hillary clinton, when her competitor was running for the senate, crossed the stage in a physical image of intimidation. i think the viewers will be looking at the two candidates of who they are, who they are as men. are they comfortable in their own skin? are they commanding? do they project leadership and confidence? all of these things play. people who listen to the nixon-kennedy debate, they thought nixon won. people who watched it on tv, they thought it went to jfk. >> obviously those famous mom t moments -- maria wlamaria, what think? >> you pointed to a famous moment that didn't do anything to fix the outcome of the campaign, so while there could be those moments onstage, it's really up to the voters whether those moments are going to become game-changing for the campaign itself. and let's be honest here. both candidates are going to be very well prep
CSPAN
Sep 26, 2012 9:00am EDT
, and the same breath criticizes george w. bush for running wars on the credit card, he will say those like almost 1 cents after another without any since he is contradicting himself. there is polling there that says that's an effective line. it moves voters eric so it doesn't matter what the actual facts are. so that's, that's when -- >> i think fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and ideas and backgrounds. and any since he is trying to redefine what a fact is. pretty saying there are no objective facts, that it's just someone else's opinion about what we are saying. so, you know, it's kind of like redefining apology. they are redefining what are facts. >> also, let me add spent i don't want to be unfair to romney. my own view is that the attitude on the part of the obama campaign and the romney campaign is pretty much equivalent. the surprising things that somebody from either campaign said it out loud, and so shocked news editors who had been paying all that much attention previously. i mean, are there differences? to any of you see differences in attitudes of the
MSNBC
Sep 29, 2012 9:00am PDT
10 points lower than president obama's and three points lower than former president george w. bush at this point. voters in several swing states also say they believe president obama cares more about the needs and problems they are currently facing. this is a snapshot here of florida, ohio and pennsylvania. when you look at which candidate voters think will implement policies favoring the middle class, president obama comes out ahead of governor romney in those same three states. joining me now for strategy talk, msnbc political analyst and republican strategist and publisher of mullings.com. rich i'll begin with you here. how frustrating are these numbers for the romney camp and the gop? is there any buyer's remorse? do you still think there is time without some dramatic event to turn this around? >> yeah. i disagree with the crew you had on earlier. i don't think that there is a hail mary necessary on wednesday night. i think one of the things that the romney team is looking for is simply for governor romney to reassure those same middle class voters you're talking about that he
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Sep 30, 2012 10:30am EDT
-ford debates, the reagan-carter debates, and then clinton-george h.w. bush debates . and three times you saw the challenger take on the incumbent and win, the debates really mattered. the places where you saw the incumbent do well, for reagan versus mondale, i would argue carter versus dole, or bush versus kerry, the incumbent won. so the-- i think debates matter psychologically to the country. they're the most viewed single event in the campaign. and i think it's always a burden on the challenger-- this isn't about romney. it's about the challenger. the challenger has to make two cases. the incumbent should not be re-elected, and i would do a better job. it's a two-part. you first have to make sure people say, "yeah, obama's stagnation is unacceptable. " but then you have to say, "by the way, this guy will be better." romney, he doesn't have to hit a home run, but romney has to be at the end of the debate wednesday night, a clear alternative who is considered as a potelepresident by a majority-- potential president by the maiority of american people in order for his campaign to have a chanc
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